The Tulli Papyrus doesn't show flying disks over ancient Egypt

A papyrus, often used by Ancient Astronaut theorists to document "flyings disks" in ancient Egypt, is the Tulli Papyrus, said to be found by Alberto Tulli in 1933 (in an Egyptian antique shop).

A translation by R. Cedric Leonard is the translation favored by AA theorists, from which the image above derives.

Leonard's translation is found in his paper Fire Circles.

A translation by an Italian nobleman, Prince Boris de Rachewiltz, also is sometimes referenced. Rachewiltz claimed he found the papyrus among Tulli's papers after Tulli died.

The questionable portion of the papyrus is presented at Wikipedia, comparing the two translations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulli_Papyrus

This is the kind of thing AA theorists use, which causes ire for UFO skeptics.

Wikipedia concludes its Tulli Papyrus offering with this:

A recent study by Franco Brussino, published in Egittologia.net web pages, revealed that the Tulli Papyrus is a forgery, made up by a kind of collage of fragments taken from nine different papyruses. The source was the Egyptian Grammar by Sir Alan Gardiner, considered the most thorough textbook of the Egyptian language, published in 1927.

I like the conjectures of the Ancient Astronaut crowd, but once an assertion they use as AA proof is shown to be false, they have to acknowledge the falsity and abandon it, something they are loath to do.

RR

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Happy Halloween, blog followers....

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NASA scientist's deathbed remarks "confirm" Area 51 extraterrestrials

http://www.examiner.com/article/area-51-scientist-s-deathbed-video-ufos-are-real-aliens-have-federal-jobs

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Everything we know about the Universe is wrong?

http://news.yahoo.com/video/movie-claims-everything-know-universe-160347842.html

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Ufology’s “mission” today should be…….?

UFO buffs/mavens have got to come to the realization that its phenomenon is no longer relevant or important, in the great scheme of things.

It once seemed to be, and obsessively, for some, it is still important.

But, really, it is a “mystery” that no longer matters.

Ufology, as a discipline – which it is not and has never been – should become archaeological; that is, its purpose should be to explain all the UFO stories, reports, and tales in the UFO lore, e.g. Kenneth Arnold’s sighting, what happened near Rowell, those Trent photos, the Flatwood’s monster sighting, Betty and Barney’s episode, Socorro, the Solway “spaceman” picture, the Travis Walton “abduction,” the O’Hare Airport event, or any number of other UFO accounts that still resonate with devotees.

Gathering current UFO sightings, which arguably, don’t have the cachet of the classic flying saucer events, is not exactly a waste of time but it is an effort without value.

The mystery about those old(er) UFO stories is just that, a mystery that itches and needs to be scratched, for many UFO old-timers.

It’s akin to Heinrich Schliemann’s search for Troy, or Stanley’s trek to find Livingston, or the ongoing attempt to discover what happened to Amelia Earhart.

What UFOs are today is meaningless in the context of world as we know it: barbaric militants trying to assert an unwanted world order, diseases and illnesses that can abruptly run amok, financial disasters looming ever so near for countries and individuals, insane crimes without rhyme or reason, et cetera.

Ufology would do well to renew itself by establishing a methodology by which it can take on the old UFO enigmas and, perhaps, tackle any new UFO emergence with real scientific and forensic tools, eschewing the inept and slovenly activities of UFO enthusiasts of the past – need I name them?

UFOs mean nothing to the vast majority of humans on Earth today.

(A cursory query of students and faculty at U of M in Ann Arbor by members of the RRRGroup indicated a sum-zero interest in UFOs; not one person evinced an interest in the topic, something I found out when I asked media persons online at our Facebook page a few months back about UFOs – no one, not one person, expressed a goddamn about UFOs.)

But still, there are a few “outlanders” like me, CDA, and a few others who read here, who are still enthralled by UFOs, mostly the classic cases but also UFOs in and of themselves.

Again, it’s not something we’re proud to announce but, nostalgically, we still want to know exactly what happened or what was seen exactly in those flying disk or UFO reports.

Ufology could serve us by redefining its “research” if only to ease that UFO niggling that still causes some of us to find the topic interesting, even though we recognize that the whole UFO panoply is worthless as a human commodity.

Yes, it’s obsessional and silly, but there it is…

RR

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Another help request....

My academic friend, Bryan Sentes, posted this symbol and quote on his Facebook page:

"There is something like life and mind enfolded within everything."

David Bohm
Physicist

Both he and I are trying to determine the source of the symbol used by Bohm.

Does anyone have any ideas?

RR

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A UFO account masking a psychotic episode

Charles Hall claims to have witnessed and interacted with a race of extraterrestrials he described as 'tall whites' while serving at Nellis Air Force Base as a duty weather observer from 1965-67. In his three volume memoirs, Millennial Hospitality, (2002) he describes his experiences as fiction yet in a series of interviews, he claims that the experiences were real and that the US Air Force were indeed hosting extraterrestrials they had reached agreements with during the 1950's if not earlier. The tall whites are humanoid in appearance. (The first UFO researcher to seriously investigate the Charles Hall story is Paola Harris who interviewed him in July 2003.) 

I found this blurb in an archive our ours, but the site from which it derives and links in the saved web-page are no longer extant.

The account represents a psychotic episode, as I see it, and seems to have inserted itself into the exopolitical community and lore.

Does anyone know what happened to Charles Hall or his "tale"?

(This kind of account represents the core problem with UFO reports: they all have elements of psychological or neurological maladies, even if what is reported is actual or true.)

RR

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Martin Kottmeyer: A Skeptic's Skeptic

UFOs exist and people have seen/reported strange objects, sometimes with creatures or beings debarking from them and often interacting with the observer.

But there is also a lot of hooey amongst and within most (almost all?) UFO accounts, from Kenneth Arnold, Roswell, right up to today.

Martin Kottmeyer, a self-sobriquetted debunker has addressed many of UFO's crème de la crème tales.

Here are two excerpts from his Gauche Encounters: Bad films and the UFO Mythos:

        "Beyond the science concerns, the artistry of the ufo phenomenon is archly phoney [sic]. The aliens are a hokey blend of human chauvinisms. Good aliens are always beautiful fair-skinned Aryan race ideals. Bad aliens are a potpourri of horror movie clichés - Men in Black, Big Brains, Big Bugs, mummies, reptoids, spooky eyes.  Though the aliens supposedly possess a technology centuries in advance of our own, they often appear to be backward and abysmally stupid. They have yet to discover drugs that wipe out short-term memory; something earthlings have already done. There is a case of an abductee who is captured by a mechanical clamp which looks like a gizmo cooked up by a Buck Rogers fan with Alzheimer's. Battlefield meatball surgeons routinely outperform the super-veterinarians of the ufo phenomenon. The aliens don't even appear to update their equipment. In the Schirmer case, aliens are using computers with reel-to-reel tape. Instead of nano-tech robot probes and hand-held smart scanners, they still use needles, knives, and lumbering lab machines. Instead of gene programmers, they still have to harvest ova and sperm on the sly like gothic body snatchers gathering parts for mad Frankenstein style experiments. Their incompetence extends to having restraints so poor that one specimen, Travis Walton, manages to escape and gain access to a saucer control room.

         "The remainder of Betty's nightmares seem to involve distortions of the 1953 alien invasion nightmare classic Invaders from Mars. In her original dream, Betty compares the noses of her captors to that of Jimmy Durante. A glance at the poster to the movie will quickly confirm the mutants in the film have noses that rival Durante's. Betty describes her captors as Mongoloid, itself a mutant genetic form. There are some preliminary tests and then Betty lies down on an examining table. The female abductee in Invaders from Mars also finds herself on an examining table. Needles are placed on various parts of Betty Hill's body including the back of the neck. Some strands of hair are also taken from the back of her neck. In Invaders from Mars, a needle is used to try to implant a device in the back of the neck of the abductee.  Betty Hill then sees a needle, longer than any needle she has ever seen before. It is placed into her navel. She experiences great pain. The examiner puts his hands over her eyes, rubs, and the pain stops. In Invaders from Mars the abductee first struggles when placed on the examining table and then a light is shown in her eyes and she calms down, lapsing into unconsciousness. Then a curious image appears on the movie screen. It has an ambiguous character. Correctly interpreted, it is an overhead shot of the alien surgical theatre which reveals some of the architecture of the saucer. Dominant in the image is a large tubular beam or conduit connecting the ceiling to the floor. It bears a marked stylistic similarity to the needle being used in the implanting operation. A confusion is invited. The tubular beam and its plastic sheath takes on the appearance of the hypodermic needle. The lighting of the floor of the saucer gives the illusion of the curvature of an abdomen. The place where floor and conduit meet is tightly surrounded by a circular indentation. It's the navel. This, I believe, is the origin of Betty's bizarre image of the needle in the navel. Either she misperceived it during the watching of the film, probably on black and white TV, or her consciousness spun out the alternate interpretation in constructing the nightmare."

You might find the whole piece online. It's fraught with more insights that resonate with sensible UFO buffs.

And here's a link to other ruminations that enlighten. (Zoam Chomsky should be ecstatic):

http://debunker.com/texts/unpredis.html

A fair reading of Mr. Kottmeyer will correct, I think, any over vivid belief in the UFO tales we have all come to love or loathe.

RR

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A "sphinx" on Mars?

http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-ancient-ruin-like-images-similar-to-findings-on-earth-same-visitors-video

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Robert Torres: his UFO encounters and new book

Robert Torres is an author and former technical and music writer.

He's been good enough to provide a succinct of some UFO experiences he's had via a WORD doc.

You can read about his experiences by clicking HERE.

He also proves a link to his bio, which you can find here:

 http://www.about.me/towers3

Here's his new book:

I find both his UFO encounters and book interesting. You may agree.

RR

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I need some help here......

A few months back I pulled a book from my collection (picture 3), about history's methodologies, hoping to compare those methodologies with ufological "methodologies."

I mentioned it in a comment here (somewhere.)

The title eludes me. as does the book itself.

I kept it near my bedroom desk (picture 2). shuffling it from one book/magazine pile to another, but always in proximity with other things I planned on using for debate here.

For two weeks, I and one of my guys have scoured the whole place, trying to find that damn book.

We have looked in every nook and cranny, and re-looked every where I might have (mis)placed that book, a pale green paperback.

Now here's where you come in -- this is how desperate I am to locate that book:

The photos below are where the book was last, or where I might have moved it.

If any of you have psychic abilities (or have a friend with same), or even if you only are a good guesser, tell me in which room (which picture) where I may locate the missing book/

First is my bedroom:

Second is our office space (excuse the messiness, I'll get to the room eventually):

And here is the book collection from which I originally pulled the book (thinking I may have placed it back for some reason):

You may think this odd, my asking for some psychical help, but the matter has become a real (personal) mystery. I have moved things around several times now, checked drawers, even my travel bag, and our plane. Nada.

So, give it a shot, won't you, and help out a frustrated guy, who hates to lose a book to the ether.

(And don't tell me it's TheTrickster at work. That will just make the frustration worse.)

RR

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Earth-size UFO orbiting Sun?

http://www.examiner.com/article/earth-sized-ufo-orbiting-sun-reported-new-photos-captured-by-nasa-shows-image

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Beware the robots (Artificial Intelligence), especially the UFO kind?

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/we-are-summoning-the-demon-with-ai-technologist-elon-musk-20141026-11c8ql.html

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Communication between UFOs

In Gerald K. Haines “The CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs Between 1947 and 1990” (which can be found online perhaps at http://www.ufoarea.com/) has this account which some of you may be familiar with:

“The Agency was … involved with Davidson and Keyhoe in two rather famous UFO cases in the 1950s, which helped contribute to a growing sense of public distrust of CIA with regard to UFOs. One focused on what was reported to have been a tape recording of a radio signal from a flying saucer; the other on reported photographs of a flying saucer. The "radio code" incident began innocently enough in 1955, when two elderly sisters in Chicago, Mildred and Marie Maier, reported in the Journal of Space Flight their experiences with UFOs, including the recording of a radio program in which an unidentified code was reportedly heard.

 The sisters taped the program and other ham radio operators also claimed to have heard the "space message." OSI became interested and asked the Scientific Contact Branch to obtain a copy of the recording. Field officers from the Contact Division (CD), one of whom was Dewelt Walker, made contact with the Maier sisters, who were "thrilled that the government was interested," and set up a time to meet with them. In trying to secure the tape recording, the Agency officers reported that they had stumbled upon a scene from Arsenic and Old Lace. "The only thing lacking was the elderberry wine," Walker cabled Headquarters.

 The Air Force … confirmed that the recording contained only identifiable Morse code which came from a known US-licensed radio station.

… the tape and the notes made at the time had been destroyed to conserve file space.”

Although the paper and this segment within it deals with the CIA’s involvement in the UFO milieu, this little tale, of the Maier sisters brings to mind a thought…

There seems to be a death of UFO or flying saucer reports in which communication takes place between such alleged craft or between a UFO and a (possible) mothership.

Since UFOs seem to act like Earthian reconnaissance aircraft, and are usually reported by ufologists as having intelligent control; that is, UFOs act like Earth-craft in many ways, one would expect that there must be or should be a means of communication between them.

Did the Maier sisters actually pick up such communication, or was their dalliance with the topic a total silly hoax or misplaced adventure, as seems to be the conclusion of UFO buffs (and the CIA/Air Force, or so they said)?

Whether the Maier tale is authentic or not is not my point here, but rather whether there is any evidence or anecdotal accounts of anyone (the military included) picking up what might have been signals or communication of some kind from UFOs.

I find no UFO stories indicating such.

And while we all agree, I think, that we may not be able to fathom an alleged extraterrestrial mind, one would think that any vehicle coming here from outer space, time, or another dimension would have some kind of intercommunication between itself and its command operation, home planet, or other craft from its civilization also here, unless, as I intuit in my “UFOs are piloted by plants” thesis, the things inside communicate telepathically, and can do so over long ranges, as Quantum Mechanics allows.

Your thoughts?

RR

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The Reverend Gill "event" [1959]

           From David Icke's site: Gill's drawing of the event

Many ufologists have provided much information on the 1959 Reverend Gill UFO sighting; here's Richard Hall's take:

http://fkbureau.homestead.com/gill.htm

But few UFO writers have zeroed in on the psychological aspects of the sighting, preferring to cite Venus as a possible instigator, even though the planet was seen elsewhere in the sky Gill reported.

The sighting might be a case of induced hallucination or folie communiquee where a delusion is shared with or by others.

While that seems unlikely from accounts of the "event," the possibility is acute, considering Reverend Gill's position or status among the natives whom he served and with whom he saw the apparition.

I've posted, recently, other sightings that are similar to the Gill observation, and note, here, that there is, as far as I know, no recent sightings that emulate the Gill event. This, and a few others in the 1960s, seem to be unique, and intrigue.

The hallucinatory elements of the sighting stand out, certainly, but aren't all UFO sightings, especially those involving alleged creatures or beings, hallucinatory in nature?

This sighting, the Gill event, has not been fully testimated and remains, like Socorro [1964], a fascinating observation that is not unlike many seen in earlier times as noted in the Vallee/Aubeck book, Wonders in the Sky and Richard Nolan's new book: UFOs for the 21st Century Mind: A Fresh Guide to an Ancient Mystery.

RR

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Suggestion(s) for keeping an open mind about UFOs

A paper by Jonathan E Adler about the "argument from ignorance" and how to keep an open mind (for a few readers here):

http://fkbureau.homestead.com/openmind.htm

RR

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The 1947 Flying Disc Panoply (by way of the FBI)

If you don't have or haven't seen the gathering of the FBI papers dealing with "flying discs," I suggest you get your hands on the PDF. (We have it in our archived files, and will provide it, if there is a real interest by some readers here. (Isaac Koi also will have a PDF is you have access to him via Above Top Secret.)

The picture above is one of several provided in the FBI papers; it's the Urie sighting of August 1947 at the Snake River Canyon.

What's interesting, to me, is that in all the witness accounts, none refer to the "things" seen  as flying discs or flying saucers. (UFO was not coined yet for flying objects reported by persons.)

The FBI consistently uses the term "flying disc" or "flying discs" derived from the Roswell reportage and in a time-frame devoid of the saturation of the term "flying saucer" that came from a reporter's sobriquet for Kenneth Arnold's observed gaggle of objects near Mt. Ranier earlier in 1947.

More importantly perhaps, is the sincerity of the reports, all coming well before the lunatic-like reportage in the 1950s and afterward. Flying discs were yet to be knickered by buffoonery.

One might find the 1947 witness descriptions extremely intriguing, smacking of intelligently controlled vehicles which would, sensibly, seem to be from somewhere beyond Earth.

What happened to sightings after 1947 may be attributed to the foolishness of Adamski and other "contactees." (See Nick Redfern's book Contactees for an overview of the milieu and persons involved.)

But for a pure rendition of the flying disc phenomena [sic] -- that's how the FBI referred to the sightings -- find the PDF, or ask me for it, and take a refreshed look at the subject matter of this blog.

You shall be enlightened.

RR

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Klass vs Maccabee on the Trent/McMinnville UFO photos

Okay you "serious ufologists" -- have at it, or shut up.

http://fkbureau.homestead.com/klass-maccabee.htm

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Huge UFO on Mars? (Sorry CDA)

http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-sighting-on-mars-nasa-image-shows-huge-flying-saucer-on-mars-video

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Bruce Maccabee's (brilliant) Exegesis of Sheridan Cavitt's Roswell Debris Recollection

Here is UFO researcher Bruce Maccabee's paper on what Sheridan Cavitt (a Roswell officer in 1947) recounted about his accumulation of the Brazel/Roswell debris:

http://fkbureau.homestead.com/cavitt.htm

And here is Kevin Randle's take on a National Geographic airing of the Cavitt tale:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html

(For Roswell neophytes mostly)

RR

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An elongated skull spotted on Mars? (This is getting silly)

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-that-an-elongated-human-skull-on-mars

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A lions' den on Mars?

http://www.examiner.com/article/alien-hunter-finds-lion-s-den-on-mars-video

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Petroglyphic/symbol of man on Mars?

http://www.examiner.com/article/photo-ancient-petroglyph-of-human-found-on-mars-rock-by-curiosity-rover-video

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No extraterrestrial craft -- UFO, flying saucer, whatever -- would have a symbol on it.

We've provided these symbols as part of a much earlier posting here about UFO symbols.

My point in re-asserting the images is that I plan an upcoming piece on why visitors from outer space could not -- that is, could not! -- have symbols on any alleged craft they flew here.

The thesis is based on the human history of writing, which you can follow by first reading this article from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_writing

This means that Lonnie Zamora's craft could not have been an extraterrestrial craft, a point I've made many times previously.

(The supposed symbol -- no matter which one is the real one -- is the smoking gun that defuses any argument for Socorro being an alien event.)

RR

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Vannevar Bush's intriguing Memex idea

The other Memex: The tangled career of Vannevar Bush's Information Machine, The Rapid Selector

Colin Burke *

Department of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus, Baltimore, MD 21228-5398

^*Correspondence to Colin Burke, Department of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus, Baltimore, MD 21228-5398

information science history

Abstract

Vannevar Bush had much less to do with modern information science and technology than has been thought. The histories of the two machines that were the closest Bush came to turning his famed Memex ideas into hardware, the Comparator and the Rapid Selector, dictate a reevaluation of Bush's direct influence. His 1930s attempts to build a device for America's codebreakers and to create a machine for the library of the future were less than successful. The story of the difficulties of the decades-long projects help to place Bush and Memex in an historical context. © 1992 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.

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Received: 20 December 1991; Revised: 6 May 1992; Accepted: 23 June 1992

RR

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A few odd UFO encounters

Jan Wolski: The craft encountered by Wolski, May 1978 (courtesy of Harry Trumbore). Not recommended for interstellar travel!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilcin_Abduction

This from David Pratt [2002], found in our archives:

Another intriguing case took place on the evening of 3 January 1979. Americans Filiberto Cardenas, his friend Fernando Marti, and Marti's wife and 13-year-old daughter were driving home when their car engine quit. The 2 men got out and began to look under the hood. They suddenly saw alternating red and violet lights reflecting off the engine and heard a sound 'like many bees'. The car began to shake, the light turned a brilliant white, and Fernando began to crawl further under the hood for protection. Meanwhile, Filiberto felt paralyzed and began to rise into the air, shouting 'Don't take me'. Fernando saw him rising up, and by the time he got out from under the hood, all he could see was a bulky object that ascended and moved away. The next thing Filiberto remembered was being nearly run over by a car on the Tamiami Trail about 16 km from where he had been lifted up. The police were sufficiently puzzled by the story that they listed the type of offence as 'close encounter of the third kind' in their official report.

RR

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UFO cruising over Moon's surface?

http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-spotted-above-the-moon-s-surface-explorers-from-another-planet-video

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What would induce the U.S. military to consider flying saucer/aircraft designs?

Flying saucer/disk configurations were relatively rare in science fiction stories prior to Kenneth Arnold’s 1947 sighting.

But there was a documented patent for a lenticular flying machine (according to Wikipedia) submitted by Romanian inventor Henri Coanda, who created a functional scale model in 1932, patenting his conception in 1935.

 A flying disc craft called the Discopter was patented by Alexander Weygers in 1944 (Wikipedia also tells us).

And in films, flying saucers were not depicted until 1950’s The Flying Saucer, and others in the 1950s time-frame.

So why were there efforts by the Army, Air Force, and even the Navy to come up with a flying saucer engineered/designed flying craft?

Did the military have access to films that showed such craft flying in the skies?

Did they actually recover a downed flying disc in Roswell, which spurred the military to try to come up with own versions?

What would cause even the slightest interest in the round flying craft design, except for some evidence that such things were extant after 1947?

RR

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Irish Cross on Mars?

http://www.examiner.com/article/irish-cross-embedded-mars-rock-opportunity-rover-photos-ancient-symbol

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The "Trickster" as a anthropomorphized metaphor is for lunatics

Bryan Daum makes a slight, quick reference to The Trickster in a comment for the Jackie Gleason post here:

Are they time travelers, observers, tricksters, specters, or what?

This about the purported beings who show up in UFO encounter reports.

The Trickster is a categorized attempt by humans to explain the vicissitudes -- the ups and downs -- of everyday (human) life.

Life is a common struggle, with bad moments and good moments.

To attribute a mythical or mystical being to a human construct, without tangible reality make me intellectually remorseful, furious even.

Bryan's comment was judicious and sensible so I'm not citing him for errant thought. It was only an aside.

But the constant use of The Trickster archetype by UFO buffs is egregiously ignorant and causes those who take psychological and philosophical disciplines seriously to move away from the UFO topic.

Althought there is a raft of commentary about The Trickster in anthropological circles and among Jungian acolytes (Joseph Campbell, for one), the concept is seen as a fictive being, not a real thing.

Just as Christians and other religious aficionados think Satan or angels are real beings, ufologists like to use The Trickster as a real being, causing some UFO sightings or events.

It's an ignorant stance.

Even as God is an iffy reality, The Trickster is so much more so.

I would hope that readers here would refrain from stretching credulity to a breaking point by using The Trickster metaphor as an explanation for some UFO events.

Was this encounter a Trickster event or fictional account by a woman with an irate husband who was trying to abate any knowledge of a dalliance? [See previous posting here about that .]

This is not The Trickster or his minions. It's an attempt to ward off repercussions of an affair.

The Trickster does not exist, has never existed, and should be relegated to the fiction category. Please.

RR

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A UFO with a common symbol

Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca provides this sighting:

October 1980. 5 am.  Miguel García Abad 34, traveling on the Cadiz-Seville road, a few kilometers from the town of Jerez (Cadiz) about 300 meters to the left, sees a saucer-shaped object inverted , bright orange, with four spotlights strong light. The light around the appliance covers 100 meters. According to the witness, the flying saucer, about 12 meters in diameter. In the upper part exists an emblem formed by several radial black lines, perhaps about 5. The symbol highlighted about luminous object   . The witness continued to circulate. (Source "Expedientes Insólitos" Ballester Olmos. 1995.

The symbol is a readily available symbol in the human lexicon of symbols, so it doesn't provide the element of mystery that the Lonnia Zamora symbol has.

But it is interesting for being prominent on a UFO, an Earth prototype, or as part of an hallucinatory incident.

RR

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Alien/Extraterrestrial thinking and technology are too flawed to be real

In my posting about water is gold for UFOs, I note that the Earth is insignificant or inconsequential in the galactic scheme of things: it’s remote and unnoticeable, slight of planetary size, and without prominence of any kind….except for its surfeit of water.

If alien travelers stumbled upon it, they would very likely be astonished at the amount of water the surface contains, something extraordinary, even among those places noted by a commenter – the rings of Saturn or the outer moons cited.

The Earth is a unique place, mostly because of its water content, and the rather pure condition of that water, compared to those other cited sources, where any water is contaminated by chemicals and elements that detract from H₂O.

This allows that old conjecture that the alleged Roswell crash derived from a flying disk that was struck by lightning at the time.

An alien craft, traveling through the vicissitudes of time, wormhole, or space itself, being downed by lightning is a stretch, but if an alien craft were from a time or place where there were no storms or water to create rain/storms and lightning, one can imagine a scenario where a lightning bolt could bring down a craft from elsewhere besides Earth.

But that Roswell suggestion is unique to the Roswell lore and beside the point here, a digression I needed to get off my chest.

What I’m dealing with here are those UFO events – not sightings in the sky – but the reported incidents where creatures are seen embarking from a strange object or craft and interacting with humans.

As noted by Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca, in his citations for us here and at his blog/site, the “beings” reported act in bizarre ways that demean intelligence enhanced enough to travel through space or time.

The activities are psychotic-like, which allows for a consensus that the reports are the product of a delusional, hallucinatory witness or witnesses, a project of a deranged mind, often temporary, or a neurological twist that is momentary.

But if the event is reported as experienced by a sane normal witness, the beings from the UFO act in ways that make no sense and use technology that doesn’t bespeak an advanced civilization or culture.

For instance the approach and demeanor of the beings is rarely cautionary as one would expect from sophisticated space travelers.

The beings move erratically toward witnesses as if the witness(es) can do them no harm or are free of human germs, illnesses, or weapons that can hurt them.

Some will say that the beings are robotic and that’s a possibility, although the accounts seem to offer activity that is not robotic as we understand the term.

Asking for (again) water or objects of a mundane nature makes little or no sense.

And using ray guns to paralyze witnesses is too sci-fi-like to bequeath it to advanced alien travelers.

A civilization that was able to traverse space or time would seem likely to have some other method to disable a human, other than a Captain Video ray gun.

The apparel is generally Earth-fashioned, a projection upon beings that indicate the experience comes from the mind of the witness or alien beings live in a retro world that is stuck in the Earth’s past periods or a world that isn’t anywhere advanced enough to permit travels to far flung regions of the galaxy or universe – too old fashioned, as it were.

Then there is the rocket-like approach or departure of their “craft” as in the Socorro incident of those enumerated by Señor Caravaca and other ufologists.

An advanced civilization would seem likely to have a propulsion system devoid of rocket aftermath.

And finally, a species that takes an unscientific methodology to confront human beings, on side roads or empty spaces with little or no value to a well-traveled space-traveling armada, is loopy, even if one countenances the idea that we can’t fathom the alien mind.

The whole panoply of UFO stories about creatures or beings from space actually landing by human beings and presenting themselves in ways that are less than advanced makes scenarios that are human-oriented rather than actual accounts of outer space species interacting with humans.

And the mundane sub-text of those reported encounters reminds me of a Jackie Gleason, Honeymooners sketch where Ralph creates a space outfit with a funnel-created ray gun for a Halloween contest at his lodge.

Now, UFOs without the attending creature reports, that’s another matter altogether.

RR

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A gun on Mars? (I don't see it.)

http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-found-a-gun-on-mars-surface

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For UFOs, water is gold

The Science cable network, last night [10/7/14] had an account of a UFO event in Langenburg, Saskatchewan, in which a farmer was surprised to see a bevy of “machines” hovering over his farm-field(s), creating crop circles.

Initially he was drawn to the objects as they seemed to be siphoning water from the swamp adjoining his property.

The “story” reminded me of the 1966 Ann Arbor-Dexter/Hillsdale sightings in which Frank Mannor and some co-eds at Hillsdale College spotted eerie something(s) hovering over swamps in their areas.

(Frank Mannor thought the object, he and his son saw at his farm, was attracted to the swamp/water there.)

You all know of accounts, many, where objects (UFOs?) have been seen apparently taking water aboard: Wanaque, among them and many more that can be found here:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/ufosandwater.html

I think an argument can be made that UFOs have sought out the Earth (as inconsequential as this planet is in our galaxy and the universe generally, as I’ve argued for some time) because it is a water planet.

Water may be a novelty for UFOnauts or maybe even a valuable commodity (as gold is for humans).

Or do you UFOs come back from the future wherein the Earth is in a dire, drought-ridden state?

Or are UFOs from a meandering civilization (Mars?) that lost its water millennia ago, needing the sustaining element to survive?

Whatever the phenomenon is, even a delusion, why would it be attracted to water?

RR

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Green Fireball(s) Return

Our academic friend (in Montreal), Bryan Sentes, provided this news story (link) to our media page at Facebook:

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-ball-of-light-mystery-deepens-1.2786752?cmp=rss

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Original Sin and UFOs

Original Sin, the “curse” that God put upon Adam and Eve for disobeying his command not to eat of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The early Church and reformed Churches, Christianity all, tied the curse or sin to concupiscence, an ardent, usually sensual, longing. In Catholic theology, concupiscence has the name "Fomes peccati", as the selfish human desire for an object, person, or experience. For Christians, concupiscence is what they understand as the orientation, inclination or innate tendency of human beings to long for fleshly appetites, often associated with a desire to do things which are proscribed. [Wikipedia]

Despite the theological niceties, Christianity has ascribed sexual desire to the sin, even though Thomas Aquinas “distinguished the supernatural gifts of Adam before the Fall from what was merely natural, and said that it was the former that were lost, privileges that enabled man to keep his inferior powers in submission to reason and directed to his supernatural end. Even after the fall, man thus kept his natural abilities of reason, will and passions.” [Wikipedia]

Aquinas’ hints at what the sin really was: A loss of supernatural gifts only.

Mankind was relegated to dealing with existence by reason, will, and human passion(s), devoid of the ability to see things in their totality, their actual reality, or the real reality suggested by Plato (among others).

This loss of supernatural insight, however, seems to appear on occasion, as in the cases enumerated by Richard Maurice Bucke in his masterpiece, Cosmic Consciousness and in the studies by Carl Jung (archetypal forms).

The occasional views of the “real reality” are evidenced by such instances as Socrates’ encounter with an evanescent Greek warrior, George Washington’s mysterious advisor during the Revolutionary War, or Malcolm X’s apparition, while in prison.

UFO witnesses seem to have obtained that snatch of “real reality” or “other reality” also, especially those who’ve reported extensive episodes of a bizarre kind, many of those reports delineated by Jose Antonio Caravaca for us, here (in previous postings).

That is, the supernatural reality, on occasion, intrudes on human consciousness, poking forth from the (Jungian) Collective Unconsciousness that is part of the human psyche.

It doesn’t take a rarefied human to have such momentary epiphanies, as Bucke shows and UFO reports show; even the least intellectual human can have such experiences.

The loss of the cloak of Original Sin dissipates by virtue of a neurological glitch or something less tangible, perhaps: a moral sin-free, persona.

UFOs are seen when the intrinsic barrier of Original Sin is masked or disappears.

This means that God’s command or dictum falters, and I posit that to the Death of God, but that for another time.

Original Sin was (and is) a “curse” that no longer exists, and UFO spotting is an example of that non-existence.

RR

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The Langenargen, Lake Constance Germany Event of 1977

Richard Hall in The UFO Evidence, Vol. II presents this snippet:

February 24, 1977 Rudi Grutsch, Langenargen, Lake Constance Germany 2:30 A.M.

Two 1.1- to 1.3-meter-tall humanoids, round heads, slanted eyes, long arms, with hovering elliptical UFOs, bright illumination of area.

The confrontation or episode is briefly noted by a few UFO venues, but is generally overlooked except at this site: https://www.scribd.com/doc/36348166/Ludwiger-Best-UFO-cases-in-Europe where, if you are curious enough to seek it out, you will find the whole detailed encounter about mid-way into the article, at Chapter Five.

It's a fascinating UFO event, replete with a UFO, creatures, witnesses affected by the encounter, medically or psychologically, and other anomalies.

Here are drawings made in 1977 and many years afterward by the main witness:

I could only find the complete account at the link provided, which is an image rather than text, not allowing a capture I could present here. So you have to get to it yourselves.

But it is a worthwhile effort as there seems to be a number of elements worthy of discussion, and the account has a ring of truth about it, whether it's an elaborate hallucination or even a nightmare.

That it may represent truthful reality is up to you to decide.

N.B. You will also discover a plethora of other sightings, just as worthy of fascination, some known and some not.

RR

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The Betty/Barney Hill Story: Does it matter?

Something happened to Betty and Barney Hill in 1961 but it surely wasn't a UFO abduction.

That ufologists persist in portraying the episode as a bona fide UFO event goes to the heart of why UFOs, generally, are dimissed by more rational minds.

For instance in these two paragraphs from the official newsletter of the Rational Examination Association of Lincoln Land, Volume 2, Number 7, July 1994 resides a premise which would disqualify Betty Hill's account of her experience as a genuine UFO event:

It was during the showing of the episode "The Bellero Shield" that I felt the uncanny frisson of deja vu. The eyes of the alien were unusually long and wrapped around the side of the face. It quickly hit me these eyes were just like the wraparound eyes that were drawn in The Interrupted Journey -- and the later more detailed drawing the Hills did in collaboration with the artist David Baker.[2] Though I couldn't articulate it at that instant, there were other similarities which had contributed to the sense of a close relationship: no ears, no hair, no nose, and a cranium shaped like a bullet tilted backwards 45 degrees. I was excited by the possibility of a match because I was reasonably sure there were few or no other examples of aliens with wraparound eyes in science fiction cinema. Moments later however my excitement became subdued. It dawned on me that The Outer Limits was a series of the mid-Sixties and the Hill case dated to the early Sixties-- 1961 or 1962. "The Bellero Shield" couldn't have been an influence. Still, the book came out in 1966. Could the lag be significant?

After the program ended, I dug into my library for a round of late night research. "The Bellero Shield" aired February 10, 1964. The Hill's UFO encounter happened in the morning of September 20, 1961. That probably should have killed the idea of any kind of influence, but the resemblance was just so compelling I couldn't shake the feeling there had to be a relationship. I reread The Interrupted Journey. To my delight I discovered there was no mention of wraparound eyes in the earliest account. Betty's dreams, written down a matter of days after the UFO sighting, mention men with Jimmy Durante noses, dark or black hair and eyes and a relaxed human appearance that she said was "not frightening." This is all quite different from the final product. The changes emerge in the hypnotic regression with Dr. Simon. The most salient issue was to know when the wraparound eyes were first described. That turned out to be during a hypnosis session involving Barney dated February 22, 1964. Not only did "The Bellero Shield" precede Barney's first mention of wraparound eyes, it did by only 12 days! I was immensely pleased.

The writer provides what has been dismissed (intentionally?) by those hoping to use the Hill's account as a template for UFO abductions: her description(s) of the beings who allegedly kidnapped her and her husband.

The Hill episode, in toto, is tantamount to a fictional rendering of a psychotic event.

It should be looked at as a psychological or neurological episode, not as a true account of an alien abduction.

Its value lies in its rather interesting psychic breakdown that is detailed in many ways over a long period of time.

Doctors dealing with mental illness that doesn't involve a totally disabling break with normal reality should be looking at the Hill case for clues to borderline psychoses that go unrecognized in the population, and how those psychoses infect "normal" persons (ufologists, in this case), causing them to suspend common sense in order to support a bias, in this instance, that aliens beings are visiting the Earth and sometimes abducting humans for bizarre experimentation.

RR

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The April 1975 Womack UFO experience

Found this at:

http://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/2-1975-march-april-sightings/

It's an experience more than an abduction (and I think Kevin Randle has dealt with this somewhere).

Location. Near Ryan Mountain Alabama
Date: April 1975
Time: evening

A 3-foot ball of fire dropped into the road several ft in front of John Womack’s car. He followed it until it rolled into a meadow, when he stopped & got out. It rose & disappeared, and a huge silvery object, like a disc with shallow upper & lower domes, appeared instead. 150 ft in diameter & 5o ft high, it was surrounded by a yellowish blue glow. A beam of light moved slowly toward the ground & spread out on reaching it, and the UFO began to descend. As Womack retreated, a beam of red light struck him in the face; he woke up aboard the UFO, sitting in a padded chair with a metal helmet on his head. In the room were intricate looking devices and 3 sorts of beings; 2 “leaders” with nose less faces & mouths like a porpoise’s. 3 giants at least 8 ft tall with hairy torsos & brutal looking faces, and 6-8 5-foot creatures with flipper feet, 6 crab like arms, 2 antennae, and beards, whose bodies were covered with “greenish warty lumps,” & whose faces wore a grinning expression. A large TV screen covered one wall. One leader spoke to the witness by means of a translating machine, telling him he would not be harmed, & shook his hand. He was then told that demons are responsible for all evil & suffering; the ufonauts use a pill that expels them. Their planet is 40 years distant; they live on food pellets; their ships are propelled by solar energy. They have been studying the earth for several thousand years. The witness was taken on a tour of the ship, and then given a view of the alien’s solar system. He came to himself sitting on the ground, & saw the UFO leave.

This is a drawing that Mr. Womack made of his "encounter"...

The encounter has all the earmarks of a psychotic experience, supported by this drawing which replicates the kinds of drawings that schizophrenics make after they've had an "episode."

Jose Antonio Caravaca might engage this event with his external agent thesis.

Or someone might try to justify the episode as an authentic UFO encounter. (I don't know what Kevin Randle's take was.)

Either way, the event is interesting in a number of ways, and almost unique....almost.

RR

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